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, but where we're going. governor romney has a perspective that says if we cut taxes, skewed towards the wealthy and roll back regulation, we'll be better off. i have a different view. i think we have to invest in education and training. i think it's important for us to develop new sources of energy here in america. that we change our tax code to make sure that we're helping small businesses and companies that are investing in the united states. that we take some of the money that we're saving as we wind down two wars, to rebuild america. and that we reduce our deficit in a balanced way that allows us to make critical investments. now, ultimately it will be up to the voters, to you, which path we should take. are we going to double down on the top down economic policies that helped get us into this mess? or do we embrace a new economic patriotism, that says america does best when the middle class does best? i'm looking forward to having that debate. >> governor romney, two minutes. >> thank you, jim. an honor to be with you and pleased to be with the president. i'm pleased to be at t
on 2013 tax increases and the so-called "fiscal cliff." activity p.m., and how corporate money is affecting the congressional races this year. c-span brings you select a vice presidential debates from the past 25 years. here's the lineup. at 7:00, at dick cheney and john edwards. that is followed by then senator joe biden and sarah palin at washington university. at san 3:00 p.m., a vice president george bush and rep ferraro. at 11:45 p.m., and center dan lloyd and signaturesaid mr. bentsen. >> on the fourth day of being in office, a weaver sitting in the oval office. larry summers was looking at this year's budget. you're going to have $1 trillion deficit. he said i have not done anything yet. >> we can not keep looking our children in the eye knowing that we're going to give them a diminished future because we're spending their money today. it is a very simple idea. mayor ron and i am going to bring it to washington. we have to stop spending money we do not have. we must cut spending. we must get this balanced budget. we must get this debt under control. >> congressman paul r
of ten year time frame we would manage the cut and spending and tax increases and in investments, we need do all three. we need to tax, cut, and invest in the source of our strength. i think that would have a huge effect. i think americans today feel in many ways like children of two divorced parents. i think it's a pal in the country in a lot of ways. it would be huge. if we got a grand bargain on energy how to exploit the boundary of -- i think the two together would have a huge impact. so the question is how close are we to that? and, you know, i have a saying about the middle east which applies to the american politics. all important politics happens the morning after the morning after. >> when is that? >> here i'm talking about the election. here i think the question really is i don't know how the election is going come out. i make no prediction. i ask myself if romney gets smashed, if he gets smashed, it would -- i happen to think the political problem in the country we have a center left party and we have a far right party. that is a structure problem. the republican party has gone
taxes on people at the high end of the income scale apreposterous. i think you would agree. obviously if the republicans get into power they are going to cut taxes at the high income and he got on stage tonight and said no. >> romney's problem is that this debate is in 2012, not 1812. we have things we can hit a button to show what he has said before. no doubt mitt romney was at his best tonight but his best is not good enough. when you look at the fact that he's saying that taxes will not go up on the middle class, yet he is proposing all the way through this campaign, dealing with deductions in terms of mortgage investments, dealing with deductions in terms of charity, it will in fact go up on the middle class and a much lower tax rate for the rich. the fact will not bear him out. when he stood there all night advocating states' rights across the board, what is that saying to women about who is going to decide on women's issues? what is that saying to minorities t immigration? this man went back to the 19th century on states' rights all night long. when we hear him talk about things
team coverage tonight. jim angle has a fact check on last night's most heated issue, tax policy. ed henry has the obama campaign reaction. and we begin with carl cameron on the first debate. good evening, carl. >> hi, brett. the romney campaign could hardly be more excited about what happened last night. in fact, since the debate ended, they say they've been getting two donations per second as a measure of mitt romney's success the morning after is general election debate debut against the president, mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a thrilled and leaved audience of conservatives. >> last night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very different visions for the country. >> he reiterated a new attack. >> trickle down government that the president proposes is one where he will raise taxes on small business, which will kill jobs. i instead want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. >> romney awoke to rave reviews across the country and democrats admit he delivered. >> virtually everything you said about my tax plan is inacc
for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy and yet the fellow on the stage last night looked like mitt romney said he did not know anything about that. >> also on thursday mitt romney took another huge step in his unfolding journey of self-discovery. speaking to shawn hennessy on fox news he repudiated the infamous 47% comments he made in may. >> in this case i said something that was just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100% and that's been demonstrated throughout my life and this whole campaign is about the 100%. when i become president it will be about helping the 100%. >>> all right. 100%. we're all in on the 100%. first let me throw it up to you guys. we've been chewing over the debate performance. i think my own take, that the president did not perform well in the debate. that's a real novel take on my part. that's what you tuned in for at home. but i don't think he performed as catastrophically poorly as other people seem to think he did. that's more or less where i'm at. maybe that's not great insi
away from fundamentally every position that he had taken. you cannot cut taxes by $5 trillion, as he's doing, and simply say, oh, i don't have that tax cut. i'm not going to cut taxes for the wealthy when the average high-income earner is going to get a $250,000 tax cut. >> let me stop you right there because the romney campaign has a new ad out just on that point and say the president and his team are aligned when they call it a $5 trillion tax cut. >> president obama continues to distort mitt romney's economic plan. the latest, not telling the truth about mitt romney's tax plan. the ap says it doesn't add up. abc news, "mostly fiction." even the obama campaign admitted it it wasn't true. >> well, okay, stipulated it won't be near $5 trillion. >> so does the campaign now accept that the cuts will be less than $5 trillion? >> no, absolutely not. i mean, look, if you're going to reduce the bush tax rates by 20% in the estate tax, in the amt, change the corporate rate and a whole host of other changes, that adds up in a reduction of revenue. the question for governor romney is what loo
and republicans can agree. we need to simplify the tax code, we need to reform the regulatory state, these are things that will help business across-the-board. neil: it comes at a time when ceos are hedging their bets right now. economists might be in that area to prove to me that things will get better kind of group. what are those in the know, who follow earnings, who follow trends, what are they telling you? what is it that all of you are saying that maybe a lot of folks are missing or even appreciating? >> we have to recognize higher taxes and more spending by a government is not going to work going forward. candidate obama right now for the next four years, about lowering the deficit. every now and then, there has been no wish to do it, no move to do it come until somebody gets undone,. neil: here's another question talking about economist. what if it's worse than they think it is. what we are headed into another recession. as gary pointed out, they are very at the least warning of a slowdown. not exactly robust demand here. but what if it is bigger than those who have been not
momentum could be lost because of joe biden obama biden want to raise taxes by $1 billion. guess what? yes we do we want to let the $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle-class does not have to bear the burden. charles: mitt romney does not waste any time. >> is today the president said they do want to raise taxes. i don't want to raise them on any americans. i want to create good jobs. charles: mondex guess says the higher tax rates will lead to higher unemployment rates. with class warfare it does not matter the residual damage they're going with this. hoping the public cannot connect the dots? >> it will be interesting hallwood joe biden follows up. $1 trillion tax hike where we want to go. four years ago they told us no tax increases on 81 making less than $250,000. the economy is languishing worse where looking for more tax hikes and four years ago it was zero tax hikes? we have all been hit now we know how the middle-class and people will be affected. obamacare has at least seven pin tax hikes and 30 more on top of that. charles: we discover a couple more every month. [laughter] bu
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running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> last night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very din visions for the country. and i think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions. i saw the president's vision as trickle down government and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> overnight polls and "the denver post" give round one to romney. as a republican challenger went after the president's record. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, and economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spent his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> the president faulted romney for being too vague. >> at some point, i think the american people have to ask themselves, is the reason that governor romney is keeping all of these plans to replace secret because
taxes on her home in stanford. here is what i hear what i am talking to people in the state -- they don't want this race to be about allegations about personal finances or attack ads. they want this race to be about them. they want to know which one of us is going to fight hard for their job, which one is going to stop the outsourcing of work from connecticut factories, they want to know how we're going to fix the schools. they won this race to be about them and that's going to be my focus over the course of the last four weeks of this race, talking about the issues that matter to the people of this state. >> i agree that we need to talk about the issues in this state. an occasional financial slip is not what we're talking about here. but you need to be honest with the people of connecticut. you need to be honest about your special interest loans and your attendance in washington. those are issues that are important to the folks of connecticut because they want to know can they trust the congressman or senator they're sending to washington to represent them and work and fight for them.
's. >> the people out there who are working every day you're not getting a tax cut, and you want to give them more. stock like you want to close the loopholes. you just want to add an additional tax cut over the loopholes, and that is a problem. neil: that was then. four years later clearly not as energized now. >> let's talk about taxes because i think it is instructive. now, four years ago when i stood on the status said that i would cut taxes for middle-class families. neil: the president is losing steam on stage. already fragile base. this is the basis that if you think about a, already arranged its inaugural in bites. what happens now? >> well, i talked to a couple of liberal voters last night. they said they were really disappointed in the president because there were opportunities , or at least they believe there were opportunities for the president to be aggressive and she back. egested not take advantage of them. so as a result of this debate as you mentioned earlier the race has changed a little bit. we will see there are three more debates left, two between the president of between the
was surprising was how much time mitt romney spent on the defensive tonight over his $5 trillion tax cut for millionaires and billionaires. he can't explain the budget math. that tax cut for millionaires and billionaires -- neil: he said it's not $5 trillion by the way. here's my thought. i don't know who's right, by the way, but i have a question for you. how does that register back to average folks at home? is to, is not, is to, is not. does that leave folks confuse the like what the hell is this? >> well, you've seen the polling, the "wall street journal" nbc poll last week saying the american people side with the president on taxes, and they think it's crazy mitt romney is raising taxes on the middle class family with kids di $2,000 to pay for $5 trillion tax cuts on millionaires and billionaires. neil: well, he said that's not the case. i know where we go on this. do you think the president's blows were as many as romney's blow? i mention this because they go through, we'll give the president points on how he got -- how romneycare, it's a slippery slope, distinguishing it from the n
our record and our pro-growth tax reform cuts taxes 20% and higher take-home pay for middle class and pro-growth economic policies, that creates about 7 million jobs. so, the final analysis, people will realize, all the president is offering is more of the same with another round of stimulus and higher tax rates on job creators. we are offering very specific reforms, how do you save and shrink the medicare and social security and prevent the debt crisis and grow jobs, how do you have an interview policy that unleashes american internally and has energy independence? >> chris: here's my question, though, the fact the message has not gotten through as effectively as it could, so far, is that your fault? the romney campaign's fault or the voters fault. >> look, i think the president has done an effective job at trying to confuse the issue and disrupt positions an distract people, but, at the end of the day i don't think that will work. >> chris: any responsibility... >> look, we are going to prosecute the campaign, in the way that we have always planned, we'll give the country a very
you're in the position to buy your business, you needed a tax cut then. i want to make sure the plumber, said the nurse, the firefighter, it the teacher, the young entrepreneur who does not have money, i want to give them a tax break now. not only did 98% of small businesses like less than to under $50,000. i also want to give them additional tax breaks because they are the drivers of the economy. >> we need to spread the wealth around. in other words, we're going to take joseph money, give it to signature obama and let him spread the wealth around. the whole premise behind the plans are class warfare, but spread the wealth around. i want small businesses that would receive an increase in their taxes. why would you want to increase anybody's taxes right now? these people are going to create jobs unless you take that money for him and spread the wealth around. i am not going to do that. >> number one, i want to cut taxes for 90 5% of americans. it is sure my friend and supporter warren buffett could afford to pay a low tax. in order to give taxes. then exxon mobil which made
that he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan. that's how it's going to be paid for but we don't know the details. he says that he's going to replace dot frank, wall street reform, but we don't know exactly which ones. he won't tell us. he now says he's going to replace obama care. at some point i think the american people have to ask themselves, is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they are too good? is it because somehow middle class families are going to benefit too much from them? >> let me bring in nick khristoff. let me read one of your many tweets last night, nick. obama is such a gifted speaker but tonight he seemed passive, distracted and defensive. what happened? >> i mean n a word, he blew it. it is not the same as blowing a campaign. i think part of it was expectations and romney did much better than expectations. but beyond that, he let romney get away with accusing him of being the one who is undecided on big banks, on being the one who would let people lose their health insurance, of being the one
, going so far as to reform the tax code, everything you want. do you think that's what's going to happen? >> i think that could happen, regardless who is president because the markets are going to begin to rattle their chains, it will be like a dungeon, say, look. >> why haven't they rattled? >> they're waiting for this to pass. >> anything could happen. >> they look at america as some the stupidest people on earth if they're going to let go over the cliff when you have a mindless sequester of 600 billion on defense, 600 billion with an ax, they're going to say you're dysfunctional and we want more money for our money and inflation kicks up and the guy that gets hurt the worse, the little guy that everybody talks about day and night. >> a funny thing happened on the way to the debate. neither candidate getting a question on that fiscal cliff. and so, if they are talking about it, as a time for taxpayers to start worrying about it? to ben stein, gerri willis and ben stein and charlie gasperino. >> people have to figure 0 this out. 90% of american households here are going to find some kin
payroll tax to gross receipt tax and why? because by doing that we can create jobs in san francisco and keep people in san francisco . the kids are growing up and we want them to stay but we need jobs. i agree with mr. crowley with the police force and make sure that is fully staffed and i have been speaking to the police athletic league and they have a program to breen the teenagers to be interns in the police force and they would feed into the police cadet program. thank you. >> thank you sir. the next question the city's liabilities are projected to increase in the next coming year. s what new or increased fees should it institute and i will repeat the question and we will begin with mr. crowley. >> i would say that one of the bigger things that we will have before us is the gross receipts tax check that norman talked about trading from the payroll tax which is punitive. the next thing i would do is increase the foot print on mos sony center and that brings in a lot of money to the general fund and erect a multi-purpose area and bring in more money to the coffers and a green i
to take away, that i haven't mentioned is this is a 100% private financed. no tax increases. no money from the general fund. [ applause ] benefits will be many. jobs obviously through the construction process, but also hundreds of permanent, well-paying new jobs. san francisco will finally have a world-class multi-purpose venue for music, artists who cannot today play in san francisco, for business and cultural event to fill a void in joe's portfolio of convention and other business coming to the city. family shows and for us, most importantly a new home back in san francisco, where the warriors started. certainly will contribute to economic growth, new tax revenue, and create a publicly accessible waterfront attraction that does not exist today. we passed a big milestone in naming our architectural team and we choose two firms that are going to be responsible for the design of this project. san francisco's acom, bill crocket is with us today. they are the most experienced arena architectural firm in the core and have been .yn 30 projects over the decade and bill personally involved with t
philosophical agreements to come through. first on taxes where the president pressed romney on what he characterized as a $5 trillion tax cuts. >> he's saying he's going to pay for it by closing loopholes and deductions. the problem is he's been asked over 100 times how to close the deductions and loopholes and he hasn't been able to identify them. >> virtually everything he said about the tax plan is enaccurate. if it were a tax plan i was asked to support, i would say absolutely not. i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cuts. i said i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> for 18 months, he's been running on this tax plan, and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying his big bold idea is never mind. >> let me repeat what i said. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. >> it dominated the deficit reduction part of the debate as the president reached back to an iconic moment from the primaries. >> governor romney stood on the stage with other republican candidates for the nomination, and he was asked, would you take $10 of spending cut
in denver. joe biden admits, he wants to raise your taxes by trillions. >> ooh 'bama and biden want to raise your tax by $5 trillion. guess what? yes, we do. >> sean: and the real obama is exposed as another disturbing tape emerges from his past. we have it tonight. plus, a special edition of media mash. we investigate race and politics. we are 33 days away from election day. "hannity" starts right here, right now. welcome to "hannity." the consensus is in. governor mitt romney was the decisive winner in last night's presidential debate. in just a moment, i will be joined for an exclusive interview by both governor romney and his runningmate, congressman paul ryan. even the most left-wing observers have conceded that their candzidate bombed without his teleprompter last night. obama aides are trying to pin it all on mitt romney. believe it or not, they are accusing the governor of lying. of course, they are the ones that are. watch this. >> again and again and again, he told the story to the american people that is completely... in contrast with what he said before and unfounded in fact. and
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policies indeed. one the state is highest gas tax of any in the nation. two, refining costs are highest in the nation, due to air quality standards, 3, state has insufficient pipeline connection to western oil and gas market that makes the disruption owono. >> looking at obama administration, policy for policy they are doing the same thing. liz: including cap and trade, governor jerry brown said, i will allowance earlier release of winter blend into the gas supply of california, do you think that will move the needle? >> 50-cents is far too large, platts reported this morning, media reports that blenders and refiners in california were already making that adjustment. so, no, that is not moving the needle. if i might just add, the four policy that obama administration is pursuing one gh greenhouse gas regulation. that will raise gas prices, two. he will make refining more expensive with epa pending tier 3 su sulfer control, three the keystone pipeline that was rejected. and four the president continues to refuse to allow oil and gas development off of the coast. liz: oil was going down
could be accurate or not. what is the person saying there should not be a millionaire tax or should be. who is the special interest dominating that message point coming out and how does the voter get through it? i think one the most amazing thicks happening in the country when you look at the president number heys doing well. what's fascinated about the amount of money being spent by the cross roads and the entity for some reason the message is not coming through it's not compel fpg you look at the swing states that we were going to be remarkably close are going to trend toward tbhawm a way that somebody thinks to seem unless the debate set the presidential election. it's clear the spt heading toward a environment he has a advantage. romney is going to be exceptional. >> tune in. >> fiewn in and watch. let watch. >> i'm excited. >> talk about in next week in class. >> would you taunt the cross road different and you engage in more localized races congressional and senate how you choose your priorities since so you have a broader scope. >> yeah. that's a good question. we're focused on
're going. governor romney has a perspective that says if we cut taxes, skewed towards the wealthy and roll back regulations, that we'll be better off. i have a different view. i think we have got to invest in education and training. i think it's important for us to develop new sources of energy here in america. that we change our tax code to make sure we're helping small businesses and companies here in the united states, that we take some of the money we're saving as we wind down two wars to rebuild america. now it ultimately is going to be up to the voters, to you, which path we should take. are we going to double down on the top-down economic policies that helped get us into this mess, or embrace a new economic patriotism, that says america does best when the middle class does best. >> governor romney two minutes. >> romney: thing you, jim. i'm i'm -- pleased to be here with the president and to be here. and congratulations to you, mr. president, i'm sure this is the most romantic place you could imagine here with me. [ laughter ] >> romney: i have had the
, taxes and the future of health care. nbc's tracie potts is in denver for us. she has a preview. good morning to you, tracie. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. the pressure was on for romney to perform, to back up his ideas with details, taking on the man that even republicans called one of the most skilled debaters in modern politics. the point of this debate was to make differences clear on lowering the debt. >> you said you'd cut the deficit in half. it's four years later, we still have trillion-dollar deficit. >> the way we do is for additional cut, we ask for a dollar of additional revenue, paid for, as i indicated earlier, by asking those of us who have done very well in this country to contribute a little bit more to reduce the deficit. >> reporter: the president insisted romney would spend $5 trillion on tax breaks favoring the wealthy. >> math, common sense and our history shows us that's not a recipe for job growth. >> everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate. >> reporter: they clashed on wall street, whether banks should be too big to fail, and medicare. >> cu
't raise taxes on the middle class, does that add up? >>> and the fbi finally arrives in benghazi, more than three weeks after the attack that left four americans dead. we'll hear from a reporter tonight who just visited the site and found a trove of sensitive documents, including one about security requests. let's go out front. >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnet. out front again, paul ryan and mitt romney taking the stage for the first time since last night's debate. that, for most accounts, was a big win for their campaign. was it enough to change the dynamic of the race 33 days before the election? let's go to jim acosta at the rally in fishersville, virginia. trace adkins, i guess, is going to perform there. they're getting ready for a big, big blowout. >> reporter: that's right, erin. they are blowing this day up. you could say this is a #winningday for the romney campaign. trace adkins is on stage. and we saw the evidence of this all day long from the gop nominee, when he got on board his campaign plane earlier this morning. he was already cruising at a higher altitude, e
, for that matter, those two. to finance a big across the board tax cut but not tell us how. not what big across the board deductions he'll deny people in order to pay for it or even what taxes he's been paying himself over the years. or how he'll finance all those popular things in the president's health care plan once he kills the plan itself. lots of secrets. secrets because he himself has no earthly idea what the answers are. i'm joined by democratic strategist bob shrum and salon's joan walsh. first, however, we have two new national polls on the presidential race. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll, president obama has a two-point lead holding there, 49%/47%. same score in the new politico poll. obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. b
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's start with taxes. governor, the president keeps saying that mitt romney is proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. that is not true. >> chris, wait a minute here. the governor, i mean former governor romney is proposing a 20% cut to income taxes including income taxes for the wealthiest of americans and i believe a 30% cut to corporate income taxes including for people like big oil that are socking all of us at the pump reit now. any economist may debate whether that adds up to $4.9 trillion or add up to 5 trillion dollars but the fact of the matter is in this debate we saw big bird meet the big lie. in fact, when you do those sorts of tax cuts there are costs to those tax cuts. the big etan drivegest driver r deficit -- >> chris: if i may, sir. you are talking about half of the planet it would be like talking about obama's jobs plans and saying the entire aro teachers. it is not obama's plan. similarly you are mischaracterizing the romney plan. saying you're right there is $5 trillion lowering the tax rates but he talks about cutting loopholes. but that is part of the plan. >> but he won't s
, earning more money and paying taxes and that's by far the most effective and efficient way to get this budget balanced. >> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. a big night in denver on wednesday, as president barack obama, and mitt romney met for the first presidential debate and the candidates sparred as you heard over taxes and the deficit as well as health care. wall street reform and the role of government. with mitt romney taking some sharp shots at the president's record these past four years. >> we're seeing right now is, in my view, a trickle down government approach which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams and that's not working the. proof of that is 23 million people out of work and the proof one out of six people in poverty, the proof 32 million on food stamps to 47 million on food stamps the proof of that 50% of college graduates this year can't find work. >> paul: there's little doubt romney's commander performance helped the g.o.p. ticket. the question is, how much? let's ask wall street jou
is going to cut taxes to the middle class. who has the best plan to cut the deficit. who cut700 billion to medicare and does it matter. these are all of the things the fact checkers are trying to get through. we'll have all of that later on. right now, though, matt jablow is out at maryland university where students watched the debate unsold and they're going to have a lot to say about who won or who lost. first, though, let's get to gary nurenberg who has got the story on what both men had to say tonight. gary. >> reporter: well, derrick, no big mistakes. no campaign killing stupidity. if you haven't been paying attention until now, both men let you know what they're offering if they get elected. things you didn't see. on her 20th anniversary, michelle obama embracing ann romney. the off camera advice hard for the candidate to take. >> okay. have a good time. >> reporter: they tried big smil, big hand shakes, grab your elbow, don't know what they said when the mikes couldn't hear. and then you can ask but i'm going to do it my way. >> mr. president, please respond directly to what the
about his position and let's start with taxes. governor, the president keeps saying that mitt romney is proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. that is not true. >> well, chris, wait a minute here. the governor -- former governor romney is proposing a 20% cut to income taxes, including income taxes for the wealthiest of americans. and, i believe a 30% cut for corporate income taxes, including big all, socking all of us at the pump, right now and any economist may debate whether it adds up to $4.9 trillion or $5 trillion and the fact of the matter. >> clayton: in this debate we saw big bird meet the big lie. those tax cuts, there are costs to those tax cuts, the biggest driver to our deficit... >> chris: if i may, sir, you are talking about half the planet like talking about obama's jobs plan, the entire plan is to give more money to teachers and, that is not obama's plans and similarly you are mischaracterizing the romney plan, saying, it is -- you are right, $5 trillion by lowering the tax rate but he talks about cutting loopholes... >> oh, chris, which loopholes and which deductions? sena
not raising taxes and essentially reducing the regulatory burden, but as you know, and the president said it, but it's true, the president's plan as well, there are not a lot of specifics here so it is a little hard to kind of pin down exactly what each of these candidates is going to do. but i think the general view is less government basically. let the free market do its thing. that was the message from last night. let the american people make their own choices, do their own thing. and that's sort of in a broad sense what romney is talking about. dagen: it was great to see you. >> thank you. dagen: coming up next hour john challenger on his new layoffs report and what the candidates need to say about the mess. connell: here we go. 18 electoral votes and no state was mentioned more in the debate last night than ohio. dagen: liz claman live from cleveland for day one of open for business. liz? liz: well, from politics to business, cleveland and ohio, look at this, we are at the rock and roll hall of fame where 100 million dollars of tourism money comes through these doors every single year,
and tax policies to get small businesses funding, make sure we are open for business and we can get production and manufacturing back here and get people back to work. it is important to talk about that after a revision of the g.d.p. numbers in the second quarter down to 1.3 percent. that is below anemic. we are not out of the fiscal woods yet. >>neil: we talk about economic numbers. you preferred to the g.d.p. data. just today, congressman, we had surprisingly strong growth in private sector numbers that may or may not mirror what happens on friday, a gain of 162,000, but, all of this is on the same day a number of companies are were watching that things do not look good and there could be an earnings recession. what do you think is the real state of the economy right now and what mitt romney has in his position tonight? >>guest: the most important thing is mitt romney needs to show that the president and his previous budget that he has proposed with trillions of dollars in new taxes only does one thing: it grows the debt. it does not do anything if the deficit we have had. you giv
mitt romney took the stage last night. >> first of all i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. >> really? is that so? >> across the board for all american. >> 20% across the board. >> by 20%. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut i don't have a tax cut. >> if you want to be president you owe the american people the truth. >> i will repeal obamacare. >> the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state. >> he is saying he would not cut education. >> he says we need more firemen and more policemen. >> did he not get the message or wisconsin? >> who is the real mitt romney? >> every day he is in a different position. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy for pbs. >> he is going to crack down on seseme street. >> i love big bird. >> elmo has to watch out. >> i think i get the last word. >> with 33 days until the presidential election moments ago on fox news mitt romney said he was completely wrong when he said that 47% of americans are hopele lless losers. he was asked what he should have said. >> what would you have said if he did bring it up? >> well, clearly
they don't have enough time to explain how they will change your tax deductions, like your home mortgage tax deduction, in the romney/ryan tax plan. not enough time. they can't even say if you will pay more or less with their tax plan. well, mitt, i'm sure president obama will give you as many of his minutes as you need to explain it all in wednesday night's debate. >> mitt romney needs a great october. >> we know romney needs a great october. >> to change the course of this campaign. >> the final push is on. >> just days away from the first presidential debate. >> both candidates cramming for the first debate. >> everyone trying to lower expectations. >> franticly spinning to lower expectations. >> president obama is an experienced debatetor. >> i'm just okay. >> almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell thvernlths is mitt's first time. >> i don't buy that. >> chris christie is taking a different tack. >> we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinary well on wednesday night. come thursday morning when we get to thursday morning, the entire narrative of
all the president is offering is more of the same but with another round of stimulus and higher tax returns rates on job creators. we are offering specific reforms. strengthen social security. grow jobs. have an energy policy that unleashes american energy and has energy independence. >> chris: the fact that the message hasn't gotten through as effectively as it could so far is, that your fault, the romney campaign fault report voters' fault? >> it is not the voters' fault. i think the president has done an effective job of trying to confuse the issue and distract people. i don't think that is going to work. >> chris: do you take any responsibility? >> we going to pros is cute the campaign in the way that we always planned which is we will tiv this country a very clear choice. do you want stagnation and dependency or growth and opportunity? the problem is not everybody knows our five point plan for a stronger middle class. not everybody knows that we have the solutions that will get people better job security. >> chris: let's talk specifics. >> no matter how many times they tell you
romney are back on the campaign trail, but still debating taxes. >> susie: i'm susie gharib. the feds launch one of the largest crackdowns on medicare fraud. $430 million in scams leads to arrests from coast to coast. >> tom: and we'll introduce you to a company hoping to become the mcdonald's for healthy eaters. >> susie: that and more tonight on nbr! >> tom: it was right back to the campaign trail today for president obama and mitt romney. the president went on the attack after what's been perceived as a lackluster debate performance. and the president accused governor romney of not telling americans the truth about what president obama calls romney's $5 trillion tax plan. darren gersh, tonight, looks at what the real impact of the romney tax plan could be on the american economy. >> reporter: here's where the president gets that $5 trillion number he used again today. governor romney's plan to cut tax rates by 20% would add up to about $5 trillion over ten years, assuming no other changes. but governor romney is planning to make other changes by eliminating tax deductions worth abo
. david: also one of america's greatest living economists tom sowell will join us with his take on the tax debate we'll hear about tonight. lauren: we'll tell you what drove the markets today with the data download. stocks edged higher on stronger than expected economic reports. all three major indices closing in the green but well off of session highs. eight of the 10 s&p sectors posting gains. telecom and consumer discretionary were the top performers today. we saw fallback in energy as well as materials. those lagged. the payroll services firm, adp, said the economy added 162,000 private sector jobs last month. that topped estimates of 143,000. now the august number, that was revised down by 12,000 to 189,000. of course we have to look ahead to the big government jobs report to flesh this all out on friday morning. >>> the services sector that expanded at its fastest pace in six months in september boosted by a pickup in new orders. the institute for supply management nonmanufacturing index that looks at 18 services industries increased to 55.1 last month from 53.7 in august. david: all
-taking that we get. and it's probably true that if we increase the tax rate we will get a rapid contraction in another risk taking but that is a compounding effect that can grow quite large overtime. in the same what if we stopped investing this year, it's not like economy would collapse. it will gradually slow down over time. and so higher payoffs for risk-taking, one is the they increase the bar for success. the united states most talented people work longer hours while their counterparts in europe and japan work fewer hours. the rest of the economy as people have grown richer they've had a reduction in the amount of work that they've done. so that's one of the things that's happened, keeping up with the joneses if you will. that work effort and the risk-taking that it represents creates companies like google and facebook in countless of other companies, innovations that we have enjoyed in the united states more than in europe and japan. and that creates valuable on the job training for our most talented workers. and so again you get the training and increases your probability for success
, or tax cuts for the rich, slashing government, slashing help for precisely those who need it, slashing government's role in infrastructure, in science and technology, would take us so far away from what we need, i wish president obama had the revenues to do more, but it is the republican side that is blocking that because that party has one idea only. and that is to cut taxes for the rich. we have this multi-brazilian there running for office. his money is in the cayman island. he pays 13% in taxes. he says the most important thing is to cut the tax rates at the top for the. it is mind-boggling that we have this kind of blatant candidacy. people are hurting, people are upset. that is why this weirdness even has a choice. but it would take as exactly in the wrong direction. president obama could have done more and would have done more if the republican opposition had not blocked the end of the bush era tax cuts for the rich, for example. so romney is in quite a position to be blaming president obama for that when it is exactly this side that has made the kind of recovery we need so flee
of the president's 20th wedding anniversary, they got down to business with details on taxes and debt and what is best for this country's middle class. >> this is where there's a difference because governor romney's plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the bush tax cuts and military spending that the military hasn't asked for. it's $8 trillion. how we pay for that, reduce the deficit and make the investments we need to make without dumping those costs on to middle class americans is one of the central questions to this campaign. >> under the president's policies, middle income americans are buried. they are being crushed. their income has come down by $4,300. this is a tax in and of itself. call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. at the same time, gasoline prices doubled. electric rates are up, food prices are up. health care costs have gone up by $2500 a family. middle income families are being crushed. the question is how to get them going again. >> governor romney defended his tax plan repeatedly. the romney proposal would give breaks to the wealthy while putting a burden on
, one that we're very proud of is the midmarket payroll tax initiatives. that is to make san francisco much more attracttive to entrepreneurial companies and renovate a blighted area. we're particularly proud of this kind of public-private partnership to move the city forward. now join me in welcoming the city's first asian american mayor and i'm very proud to say a member of the lee tribe, the 43rd mayor of san francisco, ed lee. (applause). >> thank you, judy, very much for that introduction. good morning, everyone. >> good morning. >> it's great to be here at the san francisco chamber and of course the center for economic development here, your breakfast for 2012, it's my pleasure to be here. i walked in as ed from wells fargo was talking and i just wanted to make sure you knew, i am eternally grateful it the chamber, to wells fargo for helping me create 5,200 jobs for our kids. that's a wonderful accomplishment. i've been your mayor for almost two years now and everybody is coming up to me and asking, are you enjoying it? you know, some of the politics in the city it's hard to
independence policy means more than three million new jobs. many of them in manufacturing. my tax reform plan to lower rates for the middle class and for small business creates seven million more. and expanding trade, cracking down on china and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs. i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. >> this is abc 7 breaking news. >> we are following breaking news. >> a tree has fallen onto a truck. you can see the pictures live from the chopper. this happened about 30 minutes ago on connecticut avenue at randolph road. we're told nobody was hurt. county crews are on their way to clear the tree. connecticut avenue will be closed until the rest is cleared. you can see the damage to the truck. you can see the tree on top of another vehicle on the top part of the screen. we will have more details through the newscast. >> a man shot in a confrontation with police in silver spring has died. >> this happened after police say the man tried to force his way into a home where his girlfriend is a live-in nanny. >> montgomery county police go
taxes on the middle-class. we have made changes here in the state of nebraska that grows this economy. that is why i am running for the united states senate. they want a change of leadership in washington. we have a senate in washington that hasn't passed a budget, let alone a balanced budget. we can change that. that is why i am running for the united states senate. i want to pass a balanced budget. i'm not your usual politician. obviously i am not one of the good ole boys, and i will make the tough decisions in the united states senate. we'll roll up my sleeves and work hard for you, and i will fight for you. i will fight for all people. thank you. >> thank you. now the opening statement from former nebraska governor and senator bob kerrey. >> i love nebraska. i was born here in lincoln. i went to lincoln northeast high school. i left nebraska, went to war and came home. i recovered from my injuries here in lincoln. i started a business that today employs more than 700 people. i have served you as your governor. we balanced the budget and the economy recovered. i served as a senator
are jobs. i will be the only candidate advocating eliminating income tax, corporate tax, abolishing the irs and replacing that with one federal consumption tax. i embrace the fair tax. i think that is the answer to jobs. if the private sector does not create tens of millions of jobs, i did not know what it will take to create tens of millions of jobs. it is the entry to china. i see manufacturing jobs flocking back to the united states. are you hearing these things from these other two guys? no. they are arguing over who will spend more money on medicare. romney said he wants to increase spending for the military and balance the budget. it doesn't add up. i guess we believe in santa claus and the easter bunny and i do not think they are coming. host: gary johnson is with us and will add a third line for third party voters. we will get to your calls in just a couple of moments. what is the strategy for the rest of the election? guest: right now there is a lot of attention that is being drawn to what it is that i am saying. i'm being recognized for being at 6% nationally. i'll ask you an obvi
of the unemployed and the poor. that is where a flat tax comes in. it allows attraction of the capital abroad. sam nunn was correct, you have to cut government spending. that has to happen, especially entitlements where you pay people not to work. there are other ways of bringing the debt down. cool ones. for example, how about a federal state, local, tax amnesty program? there are a lot of people in the underground economy that would be brought above ground with amnesty program. i estimate a federal, state and local tax amnesty program would raise about $800 billion in 90 days. you can also sell some assets off. camped person -- camp pendleton is 500 square miles in california. why not sell it? >>neil: my point, when you say it is too big to handle, you are missing the point, you cannot cut $16 trillion debt but you can boom your way from it. we are losing sight and what bill clinton learned in 1993, 1994, if you present a plan that looks credible like you want to reverse the direction, sometimes that creates a boom in and of itself and inspires confidence in the market that has little confidence
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